Comments on: We Need Healthy Heretics (pt. 1) http://soulcityblog.com/we-need-healthy-heretics-pt-1/ Chicago, 2010 Thu, 08 Jul 2010 03:49:56 +0000 hourly 1 By: Doug Scott http://soulcityblog.com/we-need-healthy-heretics-pt-1/comment-page-1/#comment-203 Doug Scott Sun, 16 Aug 2009 23:40:43 +0000 http://soulcityblog.com/?p=425#comment-203 Jarrett... I'm honored you consider me a healthy heretic. I love the conversation that has ensued around this concept. My contribution to this string echoes something that has already been said, but I'll repeat is here in my own words: In order to be a health heretic, one must be invested as a contributor and not merely a critic. For quite some time at Axis I would place myself in the critic category. It was only after reading a quote on the wall of my boss' office (the quote: cynicism lacks courage) that I switched to being a contributor. My heart posture changed from that point forward. Love you guys. Jarrett…
I'm honored you consider me a healthy heretic. I love the conversation that has ensued around this concept. My contribution to this string echoes something that has already been said, but I'll repeat is here in my own words:

In order to be a health heretic, one must be invested as a contributor and not merely a critic. For quite some time at Axis I would place myself in the critic category. It was only after reading a quote on the wall of my boss' office (the quote: cynicism lacks courage) that I switched to being a contributor. My heart posture changed from that point forward.

Love you guys.

]]> By: Nick Richtsmeier http://soulcityblog.com/we-need-healthy-heretics-pt-1/comment-page-1/#comment-198 Nick Richtsmeier Sat, 15 Aug 2009 04:09:24 +0000 http://soulcityblog.com/?p=425#comment-198 Hard to say for me. I know that I was at my unhealthiest in a small organization. I got isolated, didn't know how to engage the confined relational dynamics that emerged. In a large organization sometimes you can find crooks and crannies to get support, healing and truth to face your own unhealthiness in the light of grace. In small organizations (my experience) the people involved need to have places of transformative grace and truth away from the organization so that honest, healthy (sometimes heretical) engagment can ensue within. Everyone in the circle must have an honest place where they can face themselves and face Jesus. Sometimes that's inside the organization, often its not. But when everyone has that place and commits to it, we can all be heretics for each other: calling out our false assumptions, wounded rigidities, and forces of habit that keep us from creatively expressing the Kingdom together. Hard to say for me. I know that I was at my unhealthiest in a small organization. I got isolated, didn't know how to engage the confined relational dynamics that emerged. In a large organization sometimes you can find crooks and crannies to get support, healing and truth to face your own unhealthiness in the light of grace. In small organizations (my experience) the people involved need to have places of transformative grace and truth away from the organization so that honest, healthy (sometimes heretical) engagment can ensue within. Everyone in the circle must have an honest place where they can face themselves and face Jesus. Sometimes that's inside the organization, often its not. But when everyone has that place and commits to it, we can all be heretics for each other: calling out our false assumptions, wounded rigidities, and forces of habit that keep us from creatively expressing the Kingdom together.

]]> By: Jarrett Stevens http://soulcityblog.com/we-need-healthy-heretics-pt-1/comment-page-1/#comment-183 Jarrett Stevens Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:39:35 +0000 http://soulcityblog.com/?p=425#comment-183 Chris, Your stealing my thunder - I think Jesus is challenging example of a Healthy Heretic. Check today's post for more on that. Chris,
Your stealing my thunder – I think Jesus is challenging example of a Healthy Heretic.
Check today's post for more on that.

]]> By: Jarrett Stevens http://soulcityblog.com/we-need-healthy-heretics-pt-1/comment-page-1/#comment-197 Jarrett Stevens Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:16:30 +0000 http://soulcityblog.com/?p=425#comment-197 Justin, I think you should definitely write that post! Sounds like you have a lot of thoughts (and potential experience) with what you've laid out there at the end. Justin,
I think you should definitely write that post! Sounds like you have a lot of thoughts (and potential experience) with what you've laid out there at the end.

]]> By: Jarrett Stevens http://soulcityblog.com/we-need-healthy-heretics-pt-1/comment-page-1/#comment-196 Jarrett Stevens Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:16:04 +0000 http://soulcityblog.com/?p=425#comment-196 I think you shold write that post. Sounds like you have a lot of thoughts (and potential experience) with what you've laid out there at the end. I think you shold write that post. Sounds like you have a lot of thoughts (and potential experience) with what you've laid out there at the end.

]]> By: Jarrett Stevens http://soulcityblog.com/we-need-healthy-heretics-pt-1/comment-page-1/#comment-195 Jarrett Stevens Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:14:34 +0000 http://soulcityblog.com/?p=425#comment-195 You guys are taking this SOOO Much Deeper than the original post. I love these thoughts. Great Stuff. Keep it up. You guys are taking this SOOO Much Deeper than the original post. I love these thoughts. Great Stuff. Keep it up.

]]> By: Jarrett Stevens http://soulcityblog.com/we-need-healthy-heretics-pt-1/comment-page-1/#comment-194 Jarrett Stevens Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:13:38 +0000 http://soulcityblog.com/?p=425#comment-194 Agreed. I have done many (and have been guilty myself) of Heretic'ing without doing or offering any healthy and helpful options or solutions. Agreed. I have done many (and have been guilty myself) of Heretic'ing without doing or offering any healthy and helpful options or solutions.

]]> By: Jarrett Stevens http://soulcityblog.com/we-need-healthy-heretics-pt-1/comment-page-1/#comment-193 Jarrett Stevens Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:12:27 +0000 http://soulcityblog.com/?p=425#comment-193 Great thoughts Kelly. So rooted, so right. Love that you are a Healthy Female (!) Heretic. And I love the way you approach it all. Great thoughts Kelly.
So rooted, so right.
Love that you are a Healthy Female (!) Heretic.
And I love the way you approach it all.

]]> By: Jarrett Stevens http://soulcityblog.com/we-need-healthy-heretics-pt-1/comment-page-1/#comment-192 Jarrett Stevens Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:10:43 +0000 http://soulcityblog.com/?p=425#comment-192 Very Well Said. We can end this discussion on that! Great thoughts. Very Well Said. We can end this discussion on that!
Great thoughts.

]]> By: Justin Wise http://soulcityblog.com/we-need-healthy-heretics-pt-1/comment-page-1/#comment-188 Justin Wise Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:50:01 +0000 http://soulcityblog.com/?p=425#comment-188 We need more people who can lovingly look at others and say, "You are dead wrong ... And here's why..." Love where you're going with this. It might be a good post for you to explore what happens when that healthy hereticism is met with unhealthy marginalization, ostracism, and demonization. Great stuff. We need more people who can lovingly look at others and say, "You are dead wrong … And here's why…" Love where you're going with this. It might be a good post for you to explore what happens when that healthy hereticism is met with unhealthy marginalization, ostracism, and demonization.

Great stuff.

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